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it's saturday, april 21st. i'm randi kaye. a cold case is reopened after 33 year. are we any closer to knowing what happened to missing new york boy etan patz. and more fallout. more resignations in the wake of the secret service prostitution scandal. we're waiting to see if george zimmerman will get out of jail. it could happen as early as today, a florida judge granting his release on a $150,000 bond as he awaits trial for the 17-year-old trayvon martin killing. martin savage is in sanford, florida. martin, do we have any idea if and when his bond will be met? >> reporter: no, we don't. we brought you to a dinch location, randi. this is the way in george zimmerman took ten days ago. it's anticipated it's going to be the way he comes out. although there's no guarantee of that because of security concerns and we don't know the timing and that's the real issue
at this particular point. his attorney mark o'mara said it could take a few days to arrange one. the family has to get the money together for the bond and the other has to do with the security concerns. there has to be a monitoring, electronic monitoring of george zimmerman. that has to be wokked out. the attorney is going to work out where george zimmerman is going to go and that part he's keeping very close to the vest because there are fears once george zimmerman is out on the street, some people may want to target him for one reason or another. >> and we heard yesterday from zimmerman himself on the stand in this hearing. a pretty unusual move, right? >> reporter: very unusual. in fact, most of the legal experts i talked to say it was downright rare and actually could have been potentially risky for him. nonetheless, it was a powerful moment. take a listen. >> i felt sorry that they lost their child, yes. >> and so you told detectives that you wanted them to convey that to the parents. >> i don't know if they were
detectives or not. >> officers, i apologize. >> i didn't know if they were going to convey it or number i just made the statement. >> okay. and then you said that you called them up or you left a message for them to tell them that? >> no, sir. >> why did you wait 50-something days to tell them, that is, the parents. >> i don't understand the question, i'm sorry. >> why did you wait so long to tell mr. martin and the victim's mother, the father and mother, why did you wait so long to tell them? >> i was told not to can communicate with them. >> reporter: that was the exchange that took place just after george zimmerman had made the apology to the family and the man doing the grilling there is bernie de la rionda. he's the prosecutor in this case. clearly he was not happy with george zimmerman getting on the stand. many say it was not a good day for the statement they didn't look like they were prepared or that they had much of a case
against george zimmerman, but, of course, it is extremely early to make a judgment like that. >> we also heard from zimmerman's wife and parents and his family. what about trayvon's parents? are they responding to this? how did they react to zimmerman's apology as well? >> reporter: i think the biggest statement was the fact that they've made no statement at all. they've been extremely vocal and spoken at every opportunity. yesterday they did not. they came out of the courthouse and made a beilein away frbeeli. they feel they were emotionally ambushed in this disingenuous attack and were clearly upset the state wasn't prepared. >> martin savage. thank you. now to the latest on the
exhaustive 33-year search. through his attorney, a carpenter who used to have a workshop there said he had nothing to do with the boy's disappearance. etan patz disappeared the first time he walked to a school bus stop back in 1979. his disappearance raised awa awareness to a national level. he was one of the first to appear on a milk carton. susan candiotti will have more later this hour. in afghanistan, they have secured a group who was planning to attack crowded areas of the capital kabul and two of the men detained are pakistani citizens and two are afghans. the bbc says the attacks last week were planned by pakistan leaders. the first group arrived in homs today. it's happening as they're
expecting to draft something to send more monitors to syria. new explosions rocks homs this morning. the opposition says at least five people were killed. all of this in clear violation of the peace plan laid out by kofi annan. a tense situation in bahrain. the opposition is accusing the government of clamping down on demonstrators just before the grand prix. the car race is expected to start tomorrow but the crowned prince insists everything is under control. some are calling for the release of a human rights activist. he has been on a hunger strike for more than two months. four u.s. senators have sent a letter to the crown prince urging his release. three more secret service employees have stepped down over
a prostitution scandal that has rocked a agency. so far six secret service agents have lost their jobs 157bd 2 are under investigation. secret service chief mark sullivan is under fire but peter king told our wolf blitzer he's satisfied with his work so far. >> everything i've seen, he's doing the right thing. he's moving effectively and quickly right from the start. from all i know and have heard and seen, this is a very tough and thorough investigation that following every lead, pursuing every lead, so, yes, the only way to judge him is how did he react when he first learned about it. from the moment he first learned about it, he's moved quickly and effectively. >> the service >> the secret service agents are
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race. but each contributed to the process. each of them campaigned in an aggressive and dynamic way to spread our message of conservatism and each is going to play a vital role in make sure we win in november. >> on monday he'll be campaigning in philadelphia with marco rubio. before rubio makes that campaign stop you can calf him on state of the union tomorrow with candy crowley. senior cnn political editor paul steinhauser is here with some answers. >> good morning, randi. it's the biggest guessing game. who's on his list as mitt romney searching for a running mate. >> everyone's on my list. i'm not taking anybody off my list. actually i don't have a list yet. >> he has until the convention in tug decide and since he's not
giving anything away, we thought we asked people. we asked them to choose from eight possible candidates he may be considering and according to our poll, condoleezza rice tops the list. she says she's not interested. second on the list, former senator rick santorum who just last week suspended his bid for the gop nomination and hasn't endorsed romney yet. let's be honest. senator rob portman from the crucial battleground state of ohio who many insiders think could be on any short list, he didn't crack the short list in ohio. >> i'll help him in ohio. >> reporter: >> popular marco rubio and chris christie. rubio, possibly considered says
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>> yeah, i know, be that's all he's saying right now. randi? >> thank you very much, paul. is this the first time this agency has come under this kind of controversy? we'll explore that after the break. ♪ [ slap! slap! ] [ male announcer ] your favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium rich tums goes to work in seconds. nothing works faster. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums it was in my sister's neighborhood. i told you it was perfect for you guys. literally across the street from her sister. [ banker ] but someone else bought it before they could get their offer together. we really missed a great opportunity -- dodged a bullet there. [ banker ] so we talked to them about the wells fargo priority buyer preapproval.
brian todd takes a closer look and whether there's a per missiveness that may have led to the prostitution scandal. >> reporter: it's the sheer number that's led to serious questioning in washington it's hard to believe it's just the first and only time. there were just too many involved. >> reporter: in fact, 11 tote achlt sources say two supervisors among them. a comfort level with this kind of conduct. is this incident part of a pattern in that agency? we spoke off camera with several former secret service agents and supervisors who say it's not. that they never witnessed or heard of anything like that. they did tell us of so-called wheels up parties when secret service officers, white house staffers, members of the media after the president has left a city and have drinks at a bar or hotel room. they say those get-togethers are
comparati comparatively tame. jeffrey robinson says this? >> do they take off their rings? okay, that's a problem for married guys and their families. do people get drunk? gee, there's a news story. >> reporter: robinson say they're isolated incidents, not part of a broader culture. there was an incident in 2006 when a secret service agent was tasered after an altercation in waco, texas. in 2002 u.s. news and world report investigating a piece where they were accused of having raucous parties, sex with girls. some had grievances with the agency. there is real concern that this is a cultural problem within the agency. is it? >> no, it is not. i can tell you unee kweevably.
she was the first woman to serve under presidents, supervised advance teams. >> yes, we have had people found in inappropriate behavior. after duty can you go out and have a beer? absolutely. can sometimes there be an incident? yes, it has been. but is it systemic, no. >> reporter: a current secret service fishl mirrored that telling us in an agency of 7,000 people, yes, there have been incidents of misconduct and inappropriate behavior but they would not comment with regard to problems. but they say in this incident they responded appropriately. >> late yesterday the secret service has announced a 12th employee has been implicated in the scandals. what do agents from the past think about it?
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agent clint hill about the scandal. he was the first to reach john f. kennedy when shots rang out on that fateful day in 1963. >> i was in the car right behind the car. when the shots rang out from the right rear, i scanned to my right toward the shots and so i saw what happened in a presidential vehicle. the other agents scanned toward the noise and their eyes went away from the presidential vehicle. they didn't see what happened. so i reacted. i was the only one who had a chance to react and i always had a sense of responsibility and felt a sense of guilt that i wasn't able do more. i thought i should have been able to get up on that car and shield president and mrs. kennedy from any further damage, but i was unable to get there in time. >> you were in the follow-up car, correct? >> yes. i was in the follow-up car on the running boarded on the left-hand sight up front. my responsibility that day was mrs. kennedy.
>> i want to play a clip from an inthor view you did with "60 minutes" back in 1975. let's listen to this. >> was there any way, anything that the secret service or that clint hill could have done to keep that from happening? >> clint hill, yes. >> clint hill, yes, what do you mean in. >> if he had reacted about 5/10 of a second faster, maybe a second faster, i wouldn't be here today. >> you mean you would have gotten there and you would have taken the shot. >> the third shot, yes, sir. >> and that would have been all right with you. >> that would have been fine with me. >> but you couldn't. you got there in less than two
seconds, clint. you couldn't have gotten there. you surely don't have any sense of guilt about that. >> do you still think today looking back that you could have done more? >> the guilt will always be there, but, yes, the writing of the book, "mrs. kennedy and me" has help med great deal because i've relived the situation and gone through it again and talked to people about it and it's been very cathartic to go through that process. >> are you at all surprised by the current scandal unfolding in colombia with the secret service members allegedly involved with prostitutes there? >> i was shocked to hear it and i don't know any more about it than what i've heard in the media, but i am shocked. i have a great confidence in the director, director sullivan, because i know he's a no-nonsense kind of guy. after the investigation is conclude he'll take the appropriate action and it will be clarified. >> how do you think it's being handled. what do you think some of the conversations are that are going on? >> well, i'm sure that everyone
is extremely disappointed if what the allegations are proven to be true. but i do know that the top management from director sullivan on down, they're going to take charge of the situation and it will be -- those people who are involved or allegedly involved will be dealt with very severely. >> clint hill, it has been a great pleasure speaking with you this morning. thank you for your heroic efforts all those years ago. congratulations on your new book, mrs. kennedy and me. i look forward to it. >> thank you very much for allowing me to be here. a renewed search for any sign of etan patz. the focus for the search of the 6-year-old is in an manhattan basement. investigators are there right now and we'll take you there.
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moments ago the u.n. security council adopted a eye nan miss decision to send more to syria. some military are on the ground in homs. 300 more will head there soon for three months, but sounds of explosions can still be heard in the city despite a cease-fire plan in place. opposition groups say at least five people were killed by snipers today. in bahrain, the opposition is accusing the government of clamping down on demonstrators just before the grand prix. the car race is scheduled to start tomorrow. but the crown prince insists everything is under control and security measures are in place. we are waiting to see if george zimmerman will get out of jail. it could happen as early as today. yesterday a florida judge granted his release on $150,000 bond. that means his family needs to post $15,000. zimmerman has called itself defense. in a surprise move at yesterday's bond hearing zimmerman took the stand, apologized, and explained why he
didn't reach out to martin's family earlier. >> i felt sorry that they lost their child, yes. >> and so you told detectives that you wanted them to convey that to the parents. >> i don't know if they were detectives or not. >> officers, i apologize. >> i didn't know if they were going to convey it or not. i just made the statement. >> okay. and then you said that you called them up or left a message for them to tell them that? >> no, sir. >> why did you waste 50 something days to tell them. that is, the parents. >> i don't understand the question. i'm sorry. >> why did you wait so long to tell mr. martin and the victim's mother, the father and mother. why did you wait so long to tell them? >> i would told not to communicate with them. >> attorneys for trayvon martin calls his apology, quote, self-serving and disappointing. >> now to a 33-year-old seven for the missing boy etan patz. the fbi focuses on manhattan
basement and a scar pen ter who used to have a workshop there is once again saying he had nothing to do with the boy's disappearance. correspondent susan candiotti is following that story. susan, are the investigators back at the basement digging it up again this morning? >> reporter: they are, randi. you know, this search, when it began on thursday took everyone by surprise because authorities had been very low key. when the district attorney reopened this case in 2010, you didn't hear much more than that. and suddenly the fbi showed up, have been digging up the basement and plan on working through monday. they're sifting through dirt with rakes and shoves, looking to see it. to find any indication of any human remains or personal
effects, clothing that might have belonged to etan patz. and they said that if there is something down there, they intend to find it. randy? >> and etan, as we know, susan, he was declared dead in 2001. a judge found this drifter jose antonio ramos responsible for the death but he was never charged. so is there renewed focus on him or are they actually looking beyond him. >> reporter: it's hard to say what's going to happen with mr. ramos who as you rightly said isn't charged with this case. but certainly for years he was considered the prime suspect. clearly when authorities began looking at this case, they were looking at it, they told me, with a fresh eye, looking at old and new evidence. then they came upon some people that they looked at in the past, including a carpenter by the name of miller. he used to work in his basement. they have acknowledged he made
friends. they knew each other and he was in the basement, according to sources, the day before etan disappeared. in search all of this led to a search in the basement. they brought in cadaver dogs. they'll wait and see what happens with this latest excavation to see if it turns up anything and moves the case forward. >> what about etan's parents? have they said anything about this? it's been so many years and so much pain. >> reporter: that's exactly what they are experiencing. you know, randy, they live literally maybe a hundred feet away from where i'm standing in the same apartment they were living in in 1979 when their son disappeared. this has, indeed, been very tough on them. they hung a little poster, piece of paper, saying please give us our privacy. we don't want to comment right now.
people who know them say they've been through this, highs and lows over the past 33 years and they're just waiting to see what happens next. it's tough on them. >> yeah, i'm sure. none of us can really imagine how tough. susan candiotti, appreciate that. thank you. three american airlines unions are supporting a merger according to a document filed friday with the fcc. they still need the support of managers, creditors, and the back court of directors of the parent company amr. american airlines went into bankruptcy, you may recall last year. rich ross, chairman of walt disney is stepping down after the epic film "john carter." his resignation came soon as loaf figures were announced. no successor has been named. they protect the nation's experts from attacks. the consequences could be serious. we'll tell you what's being done next.
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welcome back. reynolds, it's pretty wet and dreary on the east coast, right? >> it is. we're expecting it in bangor south and miami, florida. we've got a shot of miami where you can see a lot of cloud cover with that. you see wave, a little bit of that pier, and you're going to see something else. in fact, as you take a look at radar, you can see it. heavy rainfall, in fact, all the way from the every h glades
clear down to the keys. yeah, that rain's going to stick around all the way into southern yam along a1a. everything driving to the east, northeast as it does so. the sunshine state not living up to its billing today. we are going to see that rain. rain forming from montreal clear down to east of cincinnati, northeast of nashville, all driving off to the east as we speak. you've got plenty of cloud cover. venture out to your west. you're going to see this band of shower activity. farther north, the forecast is certainly in in in north for you. big weather make their we have is going to affect people along the eastern third of the country. in fact, as we put it into motion, you'll notice as we go into sunday, early monday, that's going to excaccelerate rt up the seaboard. we're south of philadelphia, north of our nation's capital.
you could see anywhere from 4 to 5 inches of rainfall but it's going to be south florida where you're going to see it. in the everglades. great day to check out the blue bonnets. low clouds in places like the bay area and portions of the san fernando valley but by afternoon, picture perfect. your temperatures are nice too. well above normal highs. san francisco, 79. easy for me to say. 78 in salt lake city. 17 from dallas to houston. 76 in atlanta, 77 in tampa. 71, your high in boston expected to be 72. that is a quick snapshop on your travel, and randi, let's send it right back to you. >> thank you very much. so there is a huge job market for cyber security
warriors some of why are so many jobs are going unfilled and what are the consequences? rene marsh reports. >> reporter: they're on the front lines defending america from cyber attacks. government and industry insiders say you're practically guaranteed a job in cyber security if you've got the right stuff. >> there is the lack of expertise and there are a lot of people clamoring for people who know the internet world, can work in this area. >> reporter: last year the department of homeland security's cyber unit responded to more than 106,000 cyber attacks. janet napolitano says unless we train more cyber experts our economy could be the biggest casualty. she say many already work in the federal government but there's a desperate need for more. >> we need people who are analysts, people who are
engineers, people who are experienced in intelligence as it relates to the sue ber univereu cyber universe. >> reporter: george washington is answering that need. the university will launch a master's program in cyber security this fall. >> we get calls tall time from the industry and government wanting to hire students who have this expertise in training. there are not enough people. we're educating them as fast as they can. >> reporter: and design systems this security form responds to corporate breaches but with only 220 people on staff their response is normally reactive. he says stopping attacks before they happen is impossible without more qualified people in place sniet takes a long time to learn,000 be a cyber security
expert. >> reporter: he believes the six to eight-year grooming in the challenging field may be keeping people away. we're joined live from washington. good morning, are e nay. how is the government working to recruit new talent? >> good morning. in that sitdown with janet napolitano. she was very blumt in saying this is her top concern right now. so what is she doing? she's getting on planes, travels to universities to speak to students about the types of opportunities that are out there and she's also working with universities to try to set a curriculum that will actually meet the neats that they have there at the department of homeland security. but, remember, it's not just the need at dhs, but it is a big need also in corporate america. randi? >> yeah, and from what those in the industry are saying, it's pretty clear the u.s. is vulnerable. what are lawmakers' biggest concerns? what's the worst-case scenario? >> you know i sat down with one security expert and he put it like this. he said the u.s. economy could
suffer a loss in the billions. he went on to give one example. he says if another country's able to pull off a successful cyber attack, they could get access to stealing some of our intellectual property. we're talking about technology secret, trade secrets, research secrets. and he says, we, the u.s., would ee sep chally lose the advantage we have and it would dwipdle among other countries. we just would not be as competitive anymore. again, he estimates that loss in the billions. one other thing to note though, randi, in congress, they're supposed to look at suber security legislation this week, but some say that this legislation that they're looking at does not go far enough. >> all right. rene marsh, appreciate that. thank you. is your teenager suffering from depression or normal add less emt moodiness? the' could be in a simple blood test. that story's next.
jo wall greens will now pay the federal government and two whistle blowers a total f o $8 million. some workers ignored the fine print on $25 gift card promotions for transfers. they weren't supposed to apply to people on medicaid, medicare and the military's try care program but were often given anyway. the justice department says that violates federal law. according to a new study, a blood test may be able to detect depression in teens. parents who aren't sure if their child is experiencing normal moodiness or a more serious form of it could get answers with the simple pick of a finger. earlier i sat down with medical
correspondent son jay gupta and asked him how it worked. >> you draw blood, test the blood, and you're specifically trying to answer questions. one, does the person have depressi depression, and if they have early onset depression, can we predict it? it's the holy grail. even would love that we could predict. it's very early stuff. they stressed animals for a couple of weeks, drew blood from them and created a profile. this is what depressed blood may look like and tried to find some of those same markers at this point in young people, teenagers for the most part. it seems to have some correlation, but, again, this is early stuff. >> it is important because it is so hard to identify depression for sure. >> no question about it and identifying it still is mainly a clinical -- it's a clinical diagnosis, meaning someone -- a psychiatrist may interview you,
ask a bunch of questions, ask about your mood, your habits, and come to this conclusion. everyone is saying can we objectify with with a brain scan or blood test. >> what's next? where do we go from there? >> i'm fascinated by this. if we could find a depression center in the brain. there's a doctor who believes she's discovered that area. it's called area 25 and she literally in these patients, randra ran randi, who had no options, election trow convulsion therapy, she decided to similar that part of the brain and got startling is a battery pack for brain stimulator that would sit under the collar bone on the skin. this here is what goes into the brain. >> so she's putting that into patients. >> she is -- with the help of a
neurosurgeon she's putting these into brains. there's several different electrodes, she would stimulate, different amounts of electricity and get some benefit in the patient. she saw that several time. it's pretty remarkable. >> there's a real difference. once she put that in, she can say it's been successful. >> she k i saw some of this myself and it was pretty profound this. one woman, you get to see more this weekend, but she really had been in a profound state of depression for a long time, had no connection with family, people around her. even while in the operating room, while the stimulator was turned on she suddenly started to smile, rating these things. i suddenly have a great affection for the grandniece of mine. i want to see her and hold her. she hadn't felt that way since she was born. it was very quick and very profound. >> fascinating. area 25. >> area 25. >> i'll keep an eye on that one. all right, sanjay, thanks. >> thank you. for more medical stories
catch sanjay gupta m.d., 7:30 a.m. eastern time. newsroom continues with rob marciano in for fredricka whitfield. hello to you. >> nice spring afternoon freddie is off doing business. she's with her dad. i'm happy to be here. >> what do you have for us? >> of course zimmerman scheduled to get out on bail. we're going to talk about trayvon martin shooting case. what factors went into the decision, when is he going to be released. we'll have other legal guys on that. a georgia police's decision to handcuff a kindergarten, outrage among the family and community. stay tuned for that. legal guys will tackle that topic as well. west africa, writer producer visited chimpanzees in neighboring linebackereria. she takes us to a remote sanctuary where former lab animals face an uncertain
pieces. john zarrella has a piece so we're heavy on chimpanzees. who doesn't like a shooting star. this was kind of off my radar. lyrid are typically one of the faint meteor showers, not like the leonids, for instance. this year there's a new moon. no big full moon to brighten the sky where you can't see it. you can see it. this going to be the best viewing of the meteor showers in decades. >> about what time. >> dark is a good time. no, after -- >> i figured that. >> after midnight, between midnight and dawn basically. of course you need clear skies. reynolds and bonnie will be in the "weather center" discussing who will have the best viewing. >> i'm going to have to be here at 3:30 in the morning for the show. >> catch it on the way in. start atop the cnn center in the lounge chair. >> set the alarm real early. all right, rob. see you then. thanks very much.
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applause. getting in touch with your roots on the campaign trail and enjoying a taste of the nation's treasures. yes, it's not so bad as long as you don't run into someone who disagrees with you. fact is france is a country that likes to get up close and personal with politicians. as many find out sometimes the hard way, the french make a close connection between the person and the politics. take marie she talks a tough line on immigrants. you'd think she wants to take care when visiting places where there are some. you might get sprayed with water or worse. i've come to expect this kind of thing, she told the journalist. okay, it probably does go with the territory if you're an extremist but what about middle of the road politicians? this man never suspected someone was lurking, ready to get him. while being out of the public means being exposed to physical expressions of political opinion, nowhere is safe. you can be up there on stage taking a few notes one minute
and the next be covered with flour by someone who is not so respectful of presidential candidates. those who follow french politics says getting physical can be a sign of frustration. >> when we ask people what do you think about the candidate, people say the candidates are not honest. they only think about themselves. we call volatility of the voters. >> reporter: volatility is the least you can say. according to opinion polls, one out of every two voters have changed their minds about who they support since the beginning of the day. gone are the days when nearly two-thirds said they liked president sarkozy. he tried to campaign at one point bombarded with booze and paper. the president ended up serving